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+18.05.2012 12:52, Romain d'Alverny skrev:
+> Hi everyone,
+> 
+> so, Anne and me got in a conf call with JM Croset a few minutes ago to
+> get a status.
+> 
+> He announced yesterday (Thursday, May 18)
+> http://blog.mandriva.com/en/2012/05/17/mandriva-linux-will-return-to-the-community/
+> . So several discussions are popping up here and there. Mageia's
+> position has been transferred to some people inside Mandriva, among
+> which Peroyvind (see
+> https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?p=18041#p18041 - although
+> he doesn't have the full story it seems).
+> 
+
+That has never stopped POK to fill out the blanks...
+
+> He will announce early next Monday (22) that Mandriva SA will use
+> Mageia as a tech platform for its business server line, and contribute
+> back. Antoine Ginies (Mandriva engineer in chief for the business
+> server) will get in touch with us to see how we do this technically.
+> 
+
+Shouldn't be a problem.
+
+> He worries that trolls and discussions may damage Mageia in the coming
+> days (for both news: Mandriva using Mageia as a tech platform for its
+> Business Server line; and Mageia not following Mandriva in its
+> foundation things) because he realizes that... community stuff
+> sometimes goes out of hand; but he reassured us that, whatever is
+> said, he does mean good for everyone; so it's important to play it
+> cool and neutral on our side too.
+
+
+Well, I still consider the so callen Mandriva foundation a "paper
+launch" so I dont see much problem with it...
+
+The "counter-weight" to Mageia not following Mdv foundation plans is
+that mdv actually trust current Mageia.org and its structure more
+than building on any current mdv based stuff so it means they think
+we already have a strong functioning org and so on...
+
+
+> 
+> So, here's a suggested plan:
+> 
+>  * we announce/explicit both news on our side on Monday early morning
+> (CEST) as well, in a single blog post embedding all Mandriva-related
+> news:
+>    - on one side, Mageia is not going to join Mandriva foundation
+> project (and why, cold reasons as we gave him),
+>    - on the other side, Mandriva is going to use Mageia as tech
+> platform for its business server line (link) and contribute back.
+>    - this double news should make it more obvious that things are not
+> so simple as "Mageia is dumping Mandriva" or "Mandriva is rebasing on
+> Mageia".
+> 
+
+Yep.
+
+>  * this news being published Monday morning, it leaves two full days
+> to propagate, before we push the Mageia 2 release news (Tuesday
+> evening) - interest about Mageia will have raised a bit in the
+> previous days, and this release news will hide partially the previous
+> news.
+> 
+
+Yep. any news is good news :)
+
+>  * until now, all this has been kept private in board-private: a)
+> knowledge and decision about the foundation, and b) business server
+> thing. Note that about a), people may question both the decision and
+> the fact that it was private, without consulting the Council. We will
+> mail privately Council members to inform them about both a) and b),
+> but still. We won't need further arguments than what we explained to
+> Mandriva, and what the governance says. 
+
+Yep, we have that power to decide in cases like this.
+And yes, it's better Council members gets fact from us before stuff hits
+the blogs.
+
+> But still again. In the case
+> of things getting really ugly in the coming weeks, I'd suggest that we
+> call for a vote of confidence to make things very clear (from Council,
+> or from all registered contributors in LDAP).
+> 
+
+If really needed / requested yes.
+But I dont think we will have problems.
+
+> Sorry to make this quick, but we need to approve/reject/amend on this
+> before tomorrow Saturday (even better, this evening) so we can discuss
+> this with Council members in private too before Monday morning.
+> .
+
+I'm ok with it
+
+--
+Thomas